
CAIN
ON SEXUAL HARASSMENT ALLEGATIONS AGAINST HIM
marked by inconsistencies....
marked by inconsistencies....
1. "I have never sexually
harassed anyone"
2. I heard there had been a
compliant
3. My attorney told me
4. I recused myself from the investigation
5. My attorney kept me fully
informed
6. They found the allegation to
be baseless
7. I didn't know they made a
settlement
8. I don't how much the
settlement was
9. My attorney didn't tell me
the amount..
Then comes the "mea culpa" I had full
knowledge..
'HermanCain Explains His Side of Past Sexual Harassment Allegations to 'On the Record' to view video go Here
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. How did you first hear that she was making a claim against you? Who told you?
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. How did you first hear that she was making a claim against you? Who told you?
CAIN: The Politico that published the article...
VAN SUSTEREN: No, going back into the '90s. When you first -- going back in the
'90s, not...
CAIN: Oh, OK.
VAN SUSTEREN: ... the latest round, but...
CAIN: Got it. Got it. Got it. My general counsel came to my office and
told me that she had made a claim. And I said, OK, what do we need to do?
VAN SUSTEREN: What did she -- what did he say she claimed you did?
CAIN: He just used the term sexual harassment claim.
VAN SUSTEREN: You didn't say what -- like what?
CAIN: No.
VAN SUSTEREN: You didn't say, like, Whoa, what did she say I did?
CAIN: No, I didn't. I just said, What do you mean sexual harassment?
She's made some claims of sexual harassment. Now, he may have told me what
incidents that she might have included in the claim, but all day today, as I've
been getting beat up, I've been trying to recall what some of those things were
and haven't been able to recall a lot of them because that's why they got
dismissed. It was no basis because it was simple stuff. And I can't remember
all of...
VAN SUSTEREN: Do you remember any of it?
CAIN: I remember one that was in the claim, and that
is, in my office -- and this has come about just during the day as I have tried to recollect what
happened back then. Now, let me first make sure -- I recused myself and it was handled
by two of my staff members. And they were -- one of them is an officer level.
So once it was resolved, I wasn't involved, don't recall what, quote, unquote,
"settlement," termination -- I don't know what it was. But here's the
one incident that I recall as the day has gone on. She was in my office one
day, and I made a gesture saying, Oh -- and I was standing close to her. And I
made a gesture, You're the same height as my wife, and brought my hand --
didn't touch her -- up to my chin and said, You're the same height of my wife
because my wife comes up to my chin, my wife of 43 years.
And that was put in there as something that made
her uncomfortable as part of the sexual harassment charge.
VAN SUSTEREN: Did she say anything like, OK, that's weird, or anything, or she's
-- just that the next thing you noted, it was in the accusation?
CAIN: No. I can't recall any comment that she made, positive or
negative, after I made the gesture about her height, comparing it to my wife's
height.
VAN SUSTEREN: OK. So it was -- so once the general counsel came to you and told
you there was a claim, what was the next thing you did?
CAIN: I recused myself and told Peter...
VAN SUSTEREN: The general counsel.
CAIN: ... the general counselor -- to get together with Mary -- I'm
losing the last names because we're talking 12 years ago -- that for them to
basically address it. I do recall that the lady making the charge had gotten an
attorney. And I recused myself because I was the CEO and the charge was being
leveled against me.
Peter kept me updated on the progress of this
whole situation, and the thing that I remember most is when one day he came in
and said, First, the charges were found baseless.
From firsthand
experience, in the 90's when I was President of a real estate association we
had an employee make a complaint against another employee's husband. The above
response to Greta's questions is nothing like the process that was followed.
As President I had to
approve the investigation, inform the board members there had been an
allegation and the outcome.
1. The employee gave a
deposition to GENERAL COUNSEL AND LABOR RELATIONS attorneys
2. The accused gave a
deposition to GENERAL COUNSEL AND LABOR RELATIONS attorneys
3. They both had to go to a psychologist for counseling
4. A conclusion was made by the attorneys and
counselor
5. The employee and the accused
had to sign an agreement
Based on the process that I
oversaw I don't believe Cain's responses for a nano second. SOURCES: The restaurant industry whispered about Cain’s shortcomings for weeks before sexual-harassment allegations became public.
Cain Shifts Gears on Harassment Settlements